dreamstime_xxl_26795783Dearest Mom, I know its kinda late in the day to be blogging way but I wanted to get this out into the blogosphere before I forgot it.

Yesterday I started a course at a local Catholic Parish, (not my home parish), called Alpha, click here to view the site and learn more about the program.  Now Alpha is a nondenominational exploration of Jesus Christ the man, teacher, and Saviour.

I have been through many courses on Christology, Scripture, Dogma, as a spiritual director so I am not sure what to make of this course.  I was invited to come by friends of mine at this other parish, and I was very excited to go.  It is one of my Lenten promises to become more involved with my community.  As some of you may remember I spent quite a bit of time gathering little chicks under my wing to keep them from the trauma drama that going on in our home.  I stopped all contact with the outside world: no woman’s group, prayer group, going out with friends.  I did what I had to do, but when I was home, I was home.

When this course was suggested I thought why not and went.  Ah but God does enjoy pushing me out of my comfort zone and He surely did that last night.

As with most of these parish group courses you watch a video and then go back to a discussion group and discuss the video. And like these parish discussion group there is a wide range of spirituality; and that is where God really pushed me and pushed me hard.

In our group there people who are very pessimistic.  They can not see the beauty of God, or feel God’s presence, His work within the world.  There was one woman who wished/prayed that God would send the flood again to destroy the earth….really, really.  If we are praying and wishing such things are we not disobeying our baptismal vows of working WITH the mission of Christ in bringing hope to the hopeless, freedom for the oppressed.  Am I wrong in saying that we MUST be the change we want in the world?

These things trigger me and it is something I must learn to control.  It brings me right back to living with my mom and dealing with other family members whose first response to anything was worry and not just fear of the future, but sheer panic!  Panic that was so crippling that it affected the whole family; causing my father to be so angry, to terrify the children and to making the atmosphere of the home heavy, dark and hopeless.

Its that hopelessness that is so soul sucking!  Why would you want to do anything, believe in God, work for change when your whole life view is life sucks then you die!  That very world view is what I contend is the work of the devil.  So, am I saying that these women in my discussion group are the devil, no.  What I believe God is saying to me is be patient, not everyone is in the same place, and some are seeing God through lens coloured by lives filled with pain; as I well know from my own experience.

So, was/am I being the devil?  In many important ways yes I was/am.  If I can not let people journey as they must to find God then I am blocking them from lessons and opportunities that God has planned for THEM. He isn’t asking me for help with HIS job!  And while I may have come to know that life is filled with miracles even in the most difficult of times, others may not see it that way and to deny them their personal experience of God is sinful on my end; it is my trying to control them and control their relationship with God, and that is sin of arrogance and pride.

Next week when I go into my small group I will confess my sins and ask for their forgiveness.


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Is a spiritual director working helping moms find God in the everyday. She has been a spiritual director since 1998: worked as a Director of Religious Education for Holy Cross Parish(2000-2005), was Director of Project Rachel, a healing ministry for Post Abortive women(1999-2000). Patty worked a social worker for Catholic Social Services (1988 - 1995) Then studied for spiritual direction at the Dominican Center of Religious Studies, DeWitt Michigan

She is married 20 years and has four children

She has a BS/BA in social work from Aquinas College, CSD Certified Spiritual Director


  1. Dear Sir, you say “Alpha is a non-denominational exploration of Jesus Christ the man, teacher, and Saviour” but that is not exactly true, is it not? It is from the evangelical church and its is from a trinitarian denomination, looking at Jesus Christ from its protestant trinitarian viewpoint and not from a neutral point of view.

    The best way to come to know Jesus would be literally taking up the Holy Scriptures, putting all your human doctrines aside, and getting to read in the bible from the first until the last letter, taking the words for what they are. You may become surprised to see how many human teachings are contrary to the Words of God in the Holy Scriptures. But it takes courage to put away all doctrines, like the one of the Trinity.

    But Please take in mind that Jesus was the Nazarene Jew Jeshua from the tribe of king David born in an Essene family, which is a very devout Jewish group. also take in account that Jesus was born (had a beginning), could be seen by many without them falling death (remember God cannot be seen by man or they would fall death). Also know that God does not tell lies and knows everything. Jesus had to learn everything and at the end of his life still did not know a lot of things. He even did not know when he would come back or who would be seated next to him. If he is God he did not tell the truth on several occasions, about him being tempted (though God cannot be tempted) on being weak (God is all powerful) on not being able to do things (God can do everything) , on praying to God Who is greater than him (if Jesus is God he would pray to himself /very schizophrenic/ and he would be as great as God himself), not being able to do those things without his heavenly Father (when he is God he would do it himself). God is an eternal Spirit and as such has no beginning (no birth) and no end (cannot die). Jesus really did die for the sins of all and offered himself to his heavenly Father as a Lamb of God. (He did not offer himself to himself – and what would be the use of such a charade having God becoming man and faking that he was tempted and died? This also would make of God a very cruel God, letting people wait such a long time, and having us waiting still such a long time. – Remember after World War III there shall be still another 1000 years.)

    It is not bad you take the Alpha course but remember it is written from a Trinitarian and not a Bilical viewpoint. Please dare to search in Scripture and to ask questions.

  2. God is the One Who calls people? There may be very ways people have to follow before they find the right path. The Body of Christ is also very varied and some organs may be the ones for one person whilst an other may be the organ or necessity for an other person.

    All people do have to make their own choice, but they should be aware that they themselves shall be accountable for the choices they made. In many Christian and other denominations people find an easy way out for their responsibility by blaming an extraterrestrial being ‘the devil’ or ‘Satan’ responsible for their faults. But according to the Word of God the devil or satan is the adversary which is in all of us. (Look at Peter who also is called satan by Jesus.)

    God sees the heart of each individual. We should make sure that we try to become like Christ and do like him. He did not do his own will (though naturally when he would be God then he would have done his own will.) The infallible Word of God does tell us that God does not tell lies and said about the man in the river Jordan at the baptism by his cousin that Jeshua (Jesus) is His only begotten beloved son, and tells us he is the send one of God, the prophet and master teacher, a rabbi for all who gave his life not doing his will but doing the Will of God. Jesus was first lower than angels (remember God is, was and always shall be the Most High) and after three days in hell (what would God have to do in hell?) was taken out of the dead by God (not by himself). Jesus when he after his resurrection appeared to his disciples showed them his wounds as a proof he is no spirit (in case he is God he would have lied once more, because God is Spirit according God’s Word).

    We should know that Jesus is the Way to God. Him we should follow and not the teaching of man, so please do take those words of Jesus and of his heavenly Father serious and consider that God and Jesus with many other prophets told the world that there is only One God Who is One, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, Who is also the God of the 1° and the 2° Adam, and should also be our God, the Only One to worship.

  3. Our excuses for walling you ‘sir’.
    And as a Catholic you probably believe in the three gods whom you call: god the Father = god the so + god the Holy Spirit. Though the bible says clearly there is only One True God, the Divine Creator of everything, the Adonai Elohim Hashem Jehovah.

  4. The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).

  5. To be one or to be united does not mean to be one and the same person. Christians should be one with Christ like Jesus is one with God. This does not make us to be Jesus nor to be God.
    From a CEO or director there is expected that they are one with their company or institution, though the company is a business and not a person and the workers can be many fold, that boss is not one and the same person as all the workers, teachers and/or students, though they all should be one.

    When a person, like man and wife say they are one, it does not mean that they are one and the same person, but that they feel likewise. The same for Christ Jesus. Being a child from God having elements from God, because like us created in the image of God, but supplementary because being the only begotten son of God, directly placed in the womb of Mary, not only his DNA would have the strings of connection with God, but he also only wishing to do the Will of God (and not his will according to Scriptures) he focused his mind totally on God his heavenly Father and thought the same as Him.

    John 8:58 the other example you give to proof that Jesus would be God, again does not say at all that Jesus is God. It tells us that Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Today we still use that expression ‘He was born before Abraham’ or ‘He has seen Abraham’. This means he has wisdom or he is older than 50 years old. Of many of our ecclesia is said they have seen Abraham, but we honestly do not think they are already so many centuries old that they existed already before Abraham was born.

    For Jesus his case it is even more special. Because already in the Garden of Eden, so long long before the birth of Abraham, god made the promise for a solution against the penalty for the first sin of man. there way back in the beginning of human history Jesus was foreseen. As such Jesus not only been written about in the book of life, long before Abraham, like we are all already in that Book of life and death, and known to God long before Abraham was born, Jesus was the one spoken of in the Old Writings. Jesus is referring to that promise of God and giving an indication to come to see him as the Way which was promised long ago.

    The taking up stones to kill Jesus for blasphemy was because Jesus dared to call himself son of God and doing work on the Sabbath, which would place him above the prescription of the Law. That was what bothered the Pharisees who also saw in Jesus an annoying rabbi who gained more popularity and was standing in their way because undermining their teachings and power.

  6. No, we do believe what God said about the man standing in the river Jordan. We believe that Jesus is the son of God and not a god the son (a huge difference).

  7. Yes it is a huge difference, and one that makes faith in Jesus Christ a bit of a shame. Because if you do not believe that he is the Son of the Father, than his death and resurrection is meaningless.
    His miracles become more parlor games than true acts to bring people to understand the Divine Love of the Father

  8. We would say the opposite. Because God can not die and can not be tempted as He Himself says in His Word.

    Jesus was tempted many times. He could sin but did not. Jesus also proved that God’s creation could have followed the Creator God. Jesus managed in doing the Will of God and showed us way to come to do that as well.

    Most important having a man of flesh and blood who found death by impalement, having stayed three days in hell, in Jesus resurrection we do have the proof that God has kept His promise and provide a solution against death. In Jesus we do have the best example what can come over us.

    In the god you seem to hold it seems more terrible because you create a harsh unjust cruel god, who let people suffer such a long time and still leaves them suffering today. In your way of thinking it looks like God could not create a perfect world from the beginning.
    We do believe God created a perfect world, but man choose to go his way. Though in Jesus we have been given the marvellous example that it is possible for man to become one with God and to have a good relationship with Him and His creatures.

    We think we appreciate Jesus much more for what he has done, than the trinitarians. Because we accept that Jesus really did die (remember God cannot die) and we do believe Jesus did not fake that he was crying to God why God had abandoned him. We also do believe it was not a god faking to ask himself things and praying to himself, which would be schizophrenic, would it not. The trinitarians also make of Jesus and of God a liar, because they do not accept what God said about Jesus nor what Jesus said about his heavenly Father and make Jesus telling not the truth when he said he did not know when he would come back or would be seated next to him. God knows everything. God is an al-knowing eternal Spirit. Jesus after his resurrection said to those he appeared to that they could see his wounds and that he was not a spirit. In case he is God he is a spirit so he would, once more, not have told the truth, which we consider lying and as such sinning, though the Scriptures tell us that Jesus was without sin.

    As true followers of Christ Jesus we do believe what he said about himself and about his heavenly Father;We also belief what God said about him. In accepting Jesus to be a man of flesh and blood we do understand which agony he must have gone true and how sure he must have been that God’s promises would come true, because otherwise everything he had done for God and for humankind would have been in vain. We are thankful that he wanted to offer himself for all those he did even not know, and we are thankful to God that He wanted to accept the ransom offer of Christ Jesus.

    Jesus himself telling that it was not him doing the miracles, but God just makes the miracles just not becoming more parlor games than true acts to bring people to understand the Divine Love of the Father. The miracles Jesus performed and the miracle of him getting out of the dead just proves that the words already given many centuries before the birth of Jesus had come true and that the hope the many people had and we still have was and is not in vain.

  9. Those who do not want to accept that a man is able to do the Will of God and therefore do not want to accept that Jesus is a son of man, like it is said in the Bible, nullify his act of giving his life for all humankind, because God cannot die and everybody belongs already to God. God is also the giver and the taker of life, Who can end each person his life at once and change the world at once; God could have remade the human beings at once and not having let others suffer like trinitarians let Him do know.

  10. I do not understand how you can passionately speak of God and not understand the Son…..

  11. You at first may think we make a mockery of Jesus, but we do give him full honour for what he did. It are more those who make him to God, who make a harlot of Jesus and of God and one big liar of both.

    Perhaps best you take some more time over it to think about it and best would take Scripture at hand and see what it is really written in the Holy Bible, which we consider the infallible Word of God.

    We wish you best of luck in the search to the truth.
    God bless you.

  12. I believe in the total Person of Jesus as God because Peter even said of Jesus: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God” (Matthew 16:16)

  13. you say yourself you believe in Jesus as God but seem to overlook what the apostle Peter says: ““You are the Christ, the Son of the living God” (Matthew 16:16)” = Jesus is the son of the living God

  14. Jesus the one who is born and was not eternal: Matthew 1:16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
    John 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I have believed that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, even he that cometh into the world.
    Even the adversary of God knew Jesus said about himself he was the son of God and therefore claimed: Matthew 4:3 And the tempter came and said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, command that these stones become {1 } bread. {1) Gr loaves }
    Matthew 26:63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou art the Christ, the Son of God.
    Hebrews 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through {1 } the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish unto God, cleanse {2 } your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? {1) Or, his eternal spirit 2) Many ancient authorities read our }

  15. The very word Christian means one who followers the Christ, if you do not believe jesus is The Christ, Son of God, God most high then I can not and will not speak with you. I am so sorry

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